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Trous accélération golf 4 GTI 1.8 Turbo


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Bonjour à vous,

 

J'ai changé mon audi A3 1.8 Turbo 150 8L pour une golf 4 GTI équipée du même moteur, elle est d'avril 2001, moteur AUM, et je rencontre un problème: j'ai des trous à l'accélération uniquement en cas d'accélération franche à partir de 2500 tours, si j'accélére progressivement, pas de problème. La voiture totalise 124 000 kms. Je suis passé chez Volkswagen, le chef d'atelier m'a conseillé dans un premier temps de mettre du nettoyant pour injecteur dans le réservoir de carburant, mais je ne resens pas d'amélioration.

Pas de voyant moteur d'allumé, la voiture avait été passé à la valise Bosch dans un autre garage: RAS

 

Voici la liste des pièces dèja remplacées:

 

-102 000kms: Etouffoir

-103 000kms: Sonde lambda.

-105 000kms: 4 bobines, débimètre, thermostat et sonde de température moteur, 4 bougies, filtre à essence.

 

Avez vous des idées?

 

Merci

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Merci pour ta réponse. Je vais regarder ça! si vous avez d'autres idées...

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Et bien, chez vw ils m'ont dit que c'était pas la peine de passer à la valise comme le voyant moteur ne s'allume pas.

Apparemment pas de fil de bougie sur ce moteur...

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Bobine d'allumage, il y a une bobine par bougie donc un passage a la valise s'impose pour savoir laquelle est en cause je vois pas pourquoi VW ne veulent pas te la passer au com encore une concession a la noix!Essaye de voir si une personne a le com sur le site qui soit pas loin de chez toi.

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les missfire allume le voyant moteur.. -_-"

 

boitier pap, n75, ou wg du turbo qui grippe.

 

le mienne me le faisait aussi, apres nettoyage du boitier papillon et calibrage, plus rien (le tiens est a cable par contre me semble t'il)

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Je viens aux nouvelles!

 

Et bien j'avais acheté le vag-com mais je n'avais jamais pris le temps de m'en servir.

Je me suis donc lancé ce matin, du coup je tatonne un peu.

Pas de code défaut donc.

D'après ce que j'ai pu lire sur le forum, j'ai enregistré les valeurs des canaux 002,115 et 118, voici ce que j'obtiens:

 

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Dois je tester d'autres canaux?

 

Des idées?!!

 

Merci

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elle est remappé ta caisse ? 1.47bars a 4520trm ... :ripeer: elle peut fait etre des fuel-cut !

J’espère juste que tu lui fait pas subir du sp95 ....

filtre a air sport ?

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Bonjour,

 

Ma voiture est strictement d'origine, je mets la plupart du temps du SP95, J'ai dû faire pas loin de 400 000 kms en mettant du SP95 dans les différents 1.8t que j'ai eu, jamais eu de problème!!

 

Avez vous des idées? merci

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prendre un 1.8turbo et lui donner du sp95 ... no comment ! cherche pas elle te fait des correction de cliquetis .

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Ben je mets du SP95 comme indiqué dans la notice et dans la trappe à essence...

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oui ca peut crée des coupures d'injection en forte charge , il suffit que ton sp95 soit de mauvaise qualité comme souvent , ton écu te fera des corrections de cliquetis .... mets du sp98 , c'est bien mieux pour un moteur "sportif" !

Non pas de dtc .

 

et balance lui un injection5 dans le réservoir , ca lui fera pas de mal .

pas de filtre a air sport hein ! ?

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ah , j'ai encore une idée qui peut provoquer ca , j'ai deja eu sur la subaru ... le moteur n'a plus une bonne masse (-) , trouve le câble de masse (négatif) qui part sur le moteur , et nettoie les cosses a la brosse métallique , ou change si elle n'a plus une bonne tronche . moi j'avais fait une modif sur mon moulin et le cable a ripé et du coup je ne l'ai pas vu au remontage , il faisait juste contact comme ca et ca suffisait pour qu'elle tourne bien , mais des que je donnais un peu de gaz elle ratatouillait et calait .

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J'ai remis du wynn's, nettoyant injecteur, je n'ai trouvé que ça... affaire à suivre!

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le wynn's ca vaut pas un clou , c'est inefficace . les 2 seul qui fonctionne pour moi son le "injection 5" et le "Bardhall" , tu balance ca dans ton réservoir vide , tu fait un demi plein seulement , et tu lui donne bien dans la tronche sur l'autoroute .

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Merci du tuyau, des idées à la vue du graphique? euh j'y connais que dalle!!!

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Je confirme, bardhall, c'est quand même la rolls du nettoyant injection ! mais ca fera pas des miracles, c'est pas le 95 ton souci. :nanana:

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Merci, j'essaie de trouver ça, ça peut pas faire de mal...

 

J'ai envie de changer la N75, qu'en pensez vous?

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c'est pas trop cher comme pièce tu ne perdra pas grand chose a la changer ... c'est possible qu'elle en soit la cause ...

Pour le sp95 c'est clair que ce n'est surement pas la cause , quoi que ! mais on ne donne pas du sp95 a un moteur sportif ! c'est comme acheter une Ferrari et lui donner que du gas-oil !

 

une chose et sur , c'est que tu ne fait pas d'économies en donnant su sp95 a la place du sp 98 si il n'y a que 5/6 cents entre les deux !

l'écu augmente le duty cycle d'injection avec du 95 contrairement qu'avec du 98 , car le taux d'inflammabilité est moindre avec le 95 .

En réalité tu consomme plus avec du 95 et tu perd en perf , et ne dite pas que cela se ressent pas , car même sur ma 206 1.4i c'est flagrant !

 

Regarde déjà tes câbles de masse moteur !

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Forcément, ta peut etre un meilleur ressenti du manque de patate sur une 206 de 70cv... Mais a pres de 230cv, tu sens pas s'il t'en manque un peu ou pas... Juste tu consomme un peu plus avec le 95 donc au final, y'a pas vraiment d'économie (95 moins cher mais consomme un demi litre en plus).

 

Maintenant moi, j'habite a proximité du pas de la case, il ne propose que du gasoil et du 95, a un euro le litre donc bon.. l'économie n'est pas si "minime" pour mon cas.

 

(57 litres hier j'ai payé 63euros et quelques cents !)

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oui dans ce cas ...tu n'as pas le choix , mais c'est pas top !

exemple: sur la Subaru tu n'as meme pas le droit de mettre du sp95 ! c'est dans le livre de bord :) bon et en plus le 2lts n'est plus d'origine on va dire ^^

 

230ch sur le 1.8 c'est déjà un beau rendement au litre (127cv/lts), c'est étonnant qu'il disent de prendre du 95 .

 

ps : ma 206 fait 75cv , 5cv c'est important , elle n'avance déjà pas comme ca alors ont va lui laisser ses 5 poneys :) mdr

ma 206 fait tout les jours exactement le meme trajet sur autoroute de 62kms a 110kms/h stab.... mon autonomie avec du 95 est de 650/660 kms , alors qu'avec le sp98 j'en fait 700/710 . (47 litres dans le reservoir)

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J'ai régulièrement mis du 98, je n'ai noté aucune différence de consommation ni de performance...

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C'est bien ce que je dis, passé un certains cap, tu sens pas trop si ta 5 poney en plus ou en moins.

 

ndlr: parler de rendement, bof, honda a bien concu un bloc ATMO de plus de 120cv/l ! (ndlr: meilleur moteur atmo de série, rattrapé depuis par les ferrari a +200k€)

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Et oui!!

 

Sinon, savez vous si je peux tester un autre canal avec le VAGCOM pour mieux identifier la panne? Merci

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La WG du turbo est bien libre ? Si oui, regarde du coté de la vanne pneumatique n75.. Desfois, faut mettre les mains dans le camboui !

 

Sinon, au vagcom, si tu sais t'en servir, test des actionneur pour vérifié que la n75 fonctionne bien.

 

Si ton papillon est electronique, calibrage des butées d'angle min/max apres nettoyage.

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Houlà, là je vais commencer à être dépassé!!! J'ai tenté de chercher, je n'ai pas trouvé comment tester les actionneurs... et je ne voudrais pas faire de boulette!!

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Bonjour, savez vous comment tester les actionneurs avec le VAGCOM? merci

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